Monday, May 14, 2007

Indonesian Youth Voice

okay,

i really need to write this for the sake of distraction in writting my FD :(


before you read this post, for you who part of IMD SKM from PPI A, read it with your own risk, i am personalising this to some people. if you dont like it, then just go away, this is only for personal use


last thursday, i went to what is called discussion for IMD SKM (Indonesia Masa Depan- Suara Kaum Muda) in PPI Amsterdam in response for some 'complaints' in mailing list :p

the complaints, because there is no discussion during PPI A itself (guys, please put discussion as discussion not only information), and then we all knew, that Suara Kaum Muda should means all Indonesian Youth Voice not only 'few' Indonesian Youth Voice. If you understand what i means, folk :). I didnt meant that there is no announcement in mailing list, but have you ever persuaded us to make a discussion about what should PPI A should do in response for this event? So far that i recalled is no.

okay, past is past, the discussion went well, this is quite enlighting for me, or maybe for us, undergraduate. People that joined discussion are real people who have already touched with the working's environment at Indonesia. It is nice tough.

however, this is the problem that bother me, why they underestimed us, undergraduate. They just like generilised us, undergraduate, that we WILL not interest with discussion, we are not as smart as they are, we will not able to make a thesis about that, we will not arguing as smart as they are. Like Ulma'said "sooner or later it'll get to our attention, sperti skrg"

Me too, as a prove, me in 2004 are not really interested with debat or discussion things, argued to Mas Berly to don't forget set up fun-happy activities in PPI A, while, in the end, he mixed between discussion and fun things in one activity.


You said that you don't underestimated us, undergraduate? then, why you only encouraged or asked the paper for graduated and above, not even try first for us, we only for, well, ehm, informed?

added with this, "Maafkanlah kami-kami para S2 dan S3 ini yang dilatih untuk berpikir kritis." thennnnn, we are not critized??? we are silly? we are just naive? we are just inexperience (well, in some way, inexperience is true ^^). In some way, that sentence are underestimated us, undergradueate.

I know, word undergraduate itself already means under experince, or under etc, but i think, you should not use that words, really not appropriate for the example for us. Gie said ' old generation should encourage new generation throug discussion'. Thus, encourage us, because we will the one who will replace when you retired ^^. I mean, use discussion for exchange information, ideas for us.

ok, i think in some way, i generilized graduate and post graduate here :D, however, it's not my intention. some of them are very kind to spare the time to exchange information, ideas for their junior (mas Berly, you includes on this group ^^). Remember that my bf are ex graduate student here, one thing that i love from him is he never underestimates me.

see, i told you, this post is soooooo personal for some people. anyway, this is my blog, my private place, and it's up to you to interpret this. However, i open for critics and discussion and i will not post this in mailing list because, like i said, past is past, what we should consider is how to succed this event, and then after that, make this event not only for hit in one time, but, realize that they called 'living document'.

this is the first event, so, it's logic if there some misinterpration, or misunderstanding there and here. :)

long post, eh? :D sorry for my words.

Doei

13 comments:

the mouse said...

heheheh :D
well im glad that we can still present the voices of undergraduates :p

Anonymous said...

Bul.Peace..:D

Kali emang salah ngomong aja kali, dan mungkin ucapan itu digunakan untung mengcounter ucapan lain. Tapi jadinya terkesan generalisir..

Ayu kembalik ke FD>.:D


aku masuk mana ya Bul???

"You know who" :D

bulan said...

@ulma benarr :D

@anonymous, haha, abis menganggu pikiran pas buat FD seh :) anyway, yang mungkin ya... *let's be positive :)

group mana? mas B, C, D aku sayang kalian :D *you know who they are* mas2 yg sudah membantu melatih olah pikir bulan :p

Berly said...

He..he.. I agree.
There should me more kind grad student that spare time to exchange information, ideas for their junior :-D

the mouse said...

jadi harus lebih banyak anak2 undergraduate yg jadian/pacaran sama anak2 graduate? :p
*konklusi asal*

"si uda" termasuk dlm mas b c d ga? :D hey.. baru nyadar.. b****, c*****, n d***

@"anonymous": rasanya itu tanggapan dr mas angga wktu mas wiby ngumumin mas NAD sbg speaker tnp konfirmasi ke mas NAD terlebih dahulu..

bulan said...

@the mouse huehuahue itu solusi instant :P sebetulnya tidak terlalu direkomendasikan :P heheheheh

mas B,C,D? owh ituh dulu tim main bilyard taun 2005 :P huuu, i miss those times guys :( pas mas D kesini, hayu maeennn :D

@mouse, yups yups, but anyway dulu ak pernah email ttg ak sebgai anak undergraduate yg mencoba jawab,
rasanya mas itu juga agak 'nyambung' ama jawabanku pas itu. heh anyway, let's positive thinkin'

nez said...

Hehehe.. kadang-kadang kalau orang sudah merasa "penuh terisi" dia lupa mengosongkan gelasnya dan balik ke posisi zero-mind lagi.. akhirnya gak open minded dan cenderung memuntahkan ide-ide baru deh :D

That's the advantage of us being the underdogs.. eits.. undergraduates.. we are aware of our "empty cup", we are in zero-mind position.. I guess it makes us more open minded, in some ways... (or more overly-excited/ overly-enthusiasted :P)

purely MHO aja, gak bermaksud cinta kaum sendiri :P

btw aq kemaren gak dateng soale lupa -_- kepalaku penuh dengan hal-hal and superduper-multi-tasks T_T

Michael Putrawenas said...

Wah menarik juga melihat dinamika kawan-kawan di Amsterdam... Aku senang sekali melihat semangat kawan-kawan muda di Amsterdam, dan turut menyayangkan adanya persepsi teman-teman S1 yang merasa "left-out" dalam IMD-SKM. Rest assured that this is an inclusive program, kawan-kawan S1 banyak sekali yang berkontribusi dari Den Haag, Rotterdam, Arnhem, Enschede, dll. Pengalamanku di PPI jelas menunjukkan bahwa perbedaan strata akademis adalah irelevan ketika kita ingin bergerak bersama. Ingin sekali berdiskusi lebih lanjut, cuma kalau lewat reaction box blog ini terbatas sekali sepertinya... Apa kabar, Bul? hehehe..

bulan said...

@michael, aaawww kangen :D sepakat, sebenernya lebih ke arah adanya persepsi undergraduates mostly sepert i ini, which is, mereka mengeneralisasikan sendiri kalo undergraduates seperti ini...

sekarang seh ajakan untuk terlibat sudah lebih bagus dari dulu (dulu cmn men-inform), but somehow, imho, rasanya telat ya.. kan hari ini sudah ditentukan paper2 mana yg untuk bulan depan... cmmiw

heheheh kabar baik, lagi skripsi, doain yah :) iya dah lama ga ngbrol2 lagi ama anak ppi belanda thn 2005 yg tersisa :D

PrimataTantiana said...

kita undergraduate tinggal itungan bulan aja kok..santeee...kita (apalagi kamu) bakal jadi postgraduate bentar lagi juga...hehehe...

the mouse said...

*membaca komen tanti dgn iri*
*menyadari nasib yg mungkin bakal masih jadi undergraduate setaon lagi :p*
*eh engga deh entar si uda marah, lagi*

hei bul :D

PrimataTantiana said...

hihihi..ulma..ayo semangadd :D

the mouse said...

ach ja.. thx tan *sigh*